The symptoms are (either or both):

1. A high temperature - in other words, if you feel hot to touch on your chest or back - you do not need to measure your temperature.

2. You have a new, continuous cough - this means coughing a lot during more than 1 hour of a day or three or more times when you are coughing lots over a 24 hour period. If you usually have a cough, it may be worse than usual.

If you are suffering with either or both of these, please read on..

3. OK, don't panic and don't be embarrassed. A lot of people will only experience mild flu-like symptoms but some will find it particularly nasty. If you have existing health conditions (those that cause breathing conditions, those that affect the immune system and we're sure there are others - use your common sense here), these are very likely to complicate the situation. The same is true if you are elderly and, if you are either of these, the situation is even more severe. All at CDIRF wish everybody affected a speedy recovery.

4. The only people who should be embarassed are those that do not follow this advice or at least competent advice from a different source (NHS Website for example or by telephoning NHS 111 - before you do that, please read when you should and shouldn't contact them due to high demand on their services).

5. Only call NHS 111 under certain circumstances as further detailed - you could otherwise delay a more urgent call. You do not need to let them know anymore that you are self-isolating - we're past that stage as a nation now. You can still call them for serious issues (that are separate from the Covid-19 Corona Virus) or if you are unsure. They won't bite your head off.

First, some practical things:

6. Call your Employer or the Jobcentre (as soon as possible or they could still sanction you) and let them know, if you are in work, you are entitled to sick pay if you have the symptoms from day one due to a change in the law as a result of the Corona Virus. People should self isolate generally for 7 days (unless you are elderly then the current advice is 12 weeks) Don't pass it off as a cold or "garden variety" flu, unless you have a test (which you won't have access to anymore), it's impossible to tell the difference and that's a risk too far to take.

7. If you have issues with your Employer continuing to support you financially during being personally affected by the corona-virus and, therefore, self-isolating, you can apply for Universal Credit (this has to be done online) by clicking here (opens a new window). If you have an ongoing claim anyway, update your journal or call your usual telephone number. Any medical assessments are being re-arranged for people self-isolating but, of course, you need to let them know quickly or you will get sanctioned.

8. If you have any issues with the Jobcentre (you must notify them immediately of self-isolating), call us (or Email) and we will help you deal with them. They say that they have robust arrangements in place. You can click here to be taken to the DWP Corona Virus Information Section (opens in a new window).

9. If you are self-employed or run a business, this is more complicated, the Chamber of Commerce offer a free telephone line to provide business advice and they are following the Corona Virus crisis very closely. They have some great information on their website too. Click here to open a new window taking you there. They also have a telephone number - 0161 393 4321.

10The government has been exceptionally and unacceptably slow about issuing advice to those who are self-employed. The country is waiting on that and their are increasing numbers of petitions and pressure on the government to introduce compensation to those who are self-employed.

11. If everything else fails and you are self-employed or you run a business and you are low on money, apply for Universal Credit - you might not necessarily get it as they will need to look at your income and circumstances. You can apply for Universal Credit (this has to be done online) by clicking here (opens a new window) and see how they might be able to help. If you have an ongoing claim anyway, update your journal or call your usual telephone number. Any medical assessments are being re-arranged for people self-isolating but, of course, you need to let them know quickly or you will get sanctioned.

12. Please ensure that you call Avro Hollows' TMO at the Estate Office on 0161 682 5454, Email This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. or complete our Avro Hollows' reporting tool and this will go straight to Linda (and not us). You will be treated with dignity, it is so that Contractors can be warned and safeguarded. Also let Switch 2 know yourself on the phone (or if you are communicating with them by Email, please let them know this in your communications) if you need an Engineer to visit you. They are still currently doing visits. We're all at risk of this, it's not just you so don't feel bad!

13. If you get bored or lonely, why not come on the chat forum and start a new topic, we will be creating a Corona Virus topic as soon as possible but you might like to talk about something different. We need topic starters as many of our topics areas have never had anybody post in them - you win an award too for displaying on your profile! We don't just have the popular "The Vent" section you know! Also, parties are increasingly being hosted online, we are happy to try and help you for free, remotely, but data charges may apply for your internet usage. Check with your Internet Service Provider if you are unsure.

Now the really, really essential stuff:

14. Stay at home for 7 days if you are not elderly. If you are elderly, the current advice is to self-isolate for 12 weeks. This means not having face-to-face or otherwise close physical contact with people when you self-isolate, regardless of whether you are elderly or not. Use the telephone, Email and Social media (Facebook/Twitter etc) to keep in touch with others please. If you are elderly or you have existing health conditions, call NHS 111 immediately. You will be aware that the whole of the United Kingdom is now in lockdown.

15. Self-isolation is on top of the nationwide lockdown and it means not leaving for even the limited purposes that we are currently allowed to.

16. If you live with a partner, the advice is, we're sorry, to sleep in separate rooms and avoid coming into contact with each other. We feel your pain. Don't have any kids over (children are now evidenced to be able to contract the covid-19 (Corona) virus. If you live with anybody else, they should stay at home for 14 days from when you first have symptoms and in any event for seven days from when they first get it. If they continue to have symptoms, they should continue to self-isolate and contact NHS 111 immediately, regardless of age or vulnerability.

17. If you have pets, try to distance yourself from them as far as possible as it is unclear as to whether the corona-virus can be transmitted to animals (we feel your pain again). If you live with anybody that is 70 or over (without symptoms otherwise they should self-isolate for 12 weeks) or if anybody has a long term condition, is pregnant or has a compromised immune system that lives with you, try to find somewhere else for them to stay for 14 days.

18. Do Not attend GP Surgeries, Pharmacies or Hospitals either. These are not an exception to self-isolating. All standard operations have been cancelled, many services are moving online or are being offered over the telephone. Check by calling or Emailing the contact details that you have received for specific arrangements.

19. The Corona Virus can not be treated with anti-biotics as it is a virus and not an infection. Standard over the counter flu and cold treatments (including paracetamol if you are not allergic can be used and it's the best that you can do. If you are allergic, you might consider Ibuprofen or you could telephone the chemist for other ideas. Don't go there yourself.

20. Also drink plenty of fluids and try and eat what you can to keep your strength up and fight the virus (check out our Emergency Community Shopping Scheme if you are stuck for food, heating and hot water - link in the menu above). Don't be afraid to sleep as much as you need as your body fights the virus - it's a pretty nasty virus for a fair few people. Some will be lucky and only face minor flu-like symptoms. The jury is out here.

21. If your symptoms "significantly reduce the ability to undertake every-day tasks, (more than the average Joe or Josephine with the flu) or you have any other health conditions that could make things worse, for example, asthma, breathing issues or anything else that you are concerned about making you worse than anyone with the flu, Do call NHS 111 immediately for further advice on what to do (calls to NHS 111 are free from all landlines and mobile phones). You should also call NHS 111 if you remain unwell after seven days and you should continue to self-isolate.

22. If you become so severely ill that you can't even wait on the telephone whilst attempting to reach NHS 111, call 999 and ask to be transferred to the ambulance service, you can also text "help - ambulance" to 999. If you are able, please put your address, this will get you help more quickly. Be patient with them, they sometimes ask some odd questions but they generally get an ambulance on the way whilst they are talking to you further.

23. A repeat - If your symptoms do not get better after 7 days, you should call NHS 111 right away and continue to self-isolate altogether using doorstep deliveries for supplies. All the supermarkets, takeaway services, Royal Mail (and other delivery services) are aware too. We have started to hear stories of takeaways that are expecting you to come down to the ground floor. Please let us know about these and we will go ape sh*t at them for you.

24. We will have a boycotted companies list up pretty soon where we ask for you to act in solidarity. You should also hassle them (politely but repeatedly) day to day if they continue to do this - the aim is to be annoying whilst not breaking the law). This should sufficiently and justly annoy and scare them. We are not messing about and we will always be here for you.

Further Information..

The estate comprises of four tower blocks and two rows of houses split into two flats (there are no cows but most of these flats do smell of cheese due to the damp in them). Some of the flats across the estate contain 1 and, shockingly, 2 and 3 bedrooms.

Avro Hollows' Tenant Management Organisation purport to manage the estate on behalf of Manchester City Council, in association with Northwards housing (Northwards' Housing will, however, deny all knowledge of this). The estate is most definitely not run for the benefit of the local community with some residents describing the estate as an "open prison".

To find out more...please read our article "more about the estate" below.

Who We Are..

This website and its online community was set up by a resident on the Croydon Drive Estate who may or may not be closely related to C.G.B. Spender (the truth is not out there). It is entirely free to use and to become a member and it always will be. Personally identifiable information is not collected or stored protecting the anonymity of members. We only publish the tower block of the residents (so the person writing will be 1/72 or 71 people - dependent on the specific tower block).

It is not a breach of a resident's tenancy agreement to join Croydon Drive Independent Residents' Forum. The right to set up tenant groups is in fact specifically protected within resident's tenancy agreements.

The starting point for the forum was to create an online presence. The forum itself has the ability for members to send private messages (not read by the forum admin) and Members are encouraged to use their common sense in remaining anonymous and protecting themselves online. There is a reporting feature above all posts should anybody be concerned about the content - particularly where it is discriminatory or hateful - humour is of course allowed within reason.

Members are encouraged to have their say and provide feedback on the existing forum sections (including the popular "The Vent" and various general interests categories) and to request new ones. This also extends now to website content. We strongly urge residents to register using the unique registration code letters, most recently posted through doors in August 2019 by one of our kind elves.

The Croydon Drive Independent Residents' Forum is, unfortunately, not open to Contractors, Employees or Volunteers (including members) of Avro Hollows' Tenant Management Organisation, Northwards' Housing or Manchester City Council to protect the integrity of the forum and the anonymity of members and access is not permitted from locations run by them to protect the security of login details.

To ensure that our security policies are upheld vigorously for the benefit of members, we regularly lookup IP addresses that are logged when members log in. Our independence policy was ratified by members in 2018.

The Croydon Drive Independent Residents' Forum is set up by residents to further the interests of residents. It's that simple. A large part of that is to take the current management (Avro Hollows' TMO) to task where they fail residents through causing as much embarrassment as possible.

If any residents struggle to register (you need to sign up using the register option), please do use the contact form link above (or the contact link on the forum itself).

If you are a resident who has not yet registered - what are you waiting for? A very warm welcome awaits!

About Our Estate..

The estate has security gates at every entrance where many tenants cannot get in and out of all of the gates without pressing the buzzer (although thieves can) and it has so many cameras that it puts Big Brother to shame. All tenants have their mugshots taken to aid with tracking them from the moment they leave their flat until they leave the estate (perhaps further?) and there is a 24 hour live feed available to lucky viewers on Channel Commsec.

Cameras are monitored by Commsec Security (when it suits them) who, until at least very recently, controlled the access controls in Greater Manchester Police buildings - what do you know! Until recently, it was commonplace for gate intercom calls to go unanswered, particularly in the winter, leaving tenants to get soaked. Commsec Security are, however, excellent at bellowing over the multiple speaker tannoy system from their offices about 1.5 miles away, over which they particularly enjoy repeating "this is a test" to remind tenants that they are watching.

There are entrance intercoms on each tower block. On two of them, tenants do not ever get to speak to their visitors as the dial pad has been removed and replaced with a camera, and, on the other two, Commsec Security like to randomly divert intercom calls to them when they get bored. On all four tower blocks, Commsec Security like to have a conversation with your guests instead, particularly when your food (and takeaway driver) is getting cold.

Avro Hollows' TMO work very closely with Greater Manchester Police (when it suits them) and other "agencies" to reduce any incidents that they conveniently describe (or refuse to describe) as anti social behavior and they rarely take care of more vulnerable tenants where they prefer to send threatening letters, by hand, to the wrong address whilst somehow travelling up tower blocks, hand delivering the letters (whilst still not realising).

The MGMT..

We have a highly unmotivated team running the estate, including the TMO Board, the Estate Manager and "office team" (1 person), four Caretakers ("Welcome to the Tesco Mobile Voicemail Service.") and a Gardener that likes to mow the lawns across the grounds with a garden lawn mower rather than a small vehicle so it's noisier for longer. It is fair to say that the grounds do look pretty nice - of course it's very important to hide the state of the flats and particularly the Shackleton Court tower block where some tenants don't even have proper locks on their front doors - padlocks replace them.

The Board..

The TMO board are extremely selective about who they invite to their meetings (you'd have more chance of being invited to bank with Coutts) and the majority of tenants do not get a look in or a say on anything at TMO board meetings where they are no longer announced for fear of tenants protesting.

Avro Hollows' TMO are certainly not there to make the experience of living on the Croydon Drive estate a "really happy one" unless you are one of a select few on the board with access to around £90k at present and around £250k a year grant funding (from Northwards).

Welcome to the Croydon Drive Independent Residents' Forum where we do things differently and respect each other.